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TheSuccessionstar had her own secret existence among the free toiletries.

As the shrewdly strategic Gerri Kellman, the general counsel and interim CEO of Waystar Royco onHBOsSuccession,J.

Smith-Cameronis always planning at least three steps ahead of the competition.

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But she was still living paycheck to paycheck.

As a young actress, ingenues are a dime a dozen, Smith-Cameron, now 65, tells Bustle.

I had to just take jobs I couldn’t really design what I wanted to do.

J. Smith-Cameron with the late playwright August Wilson.

But life at 28 was more than a mad dash from one audition to the next.

She was becoming a seasoned New Yorker, and landed one of the parts shed always wanted.

I had good times and definitely bad times, Smith-Cameron says.

Your body’s young and healthy, but you’re beginning to get battle-scarred.

The scars werent all bad, either: It gives you a little smoky flavor of experience about you.

It makes you actually a really attractive, interesting person.

Take me back to 1985, when you turned 28.

How were you feeling about your life and career?

One big milestone was that I got cast as Juliet inRomeo and Juliet.

It was at Syracuse Stage, but that was a part I’d always wanted to play.

You didn’t prepare like you thought you could get it."

And I got right back out of bed and started rehearsing the monologues again in my nightgown.

I went in the next day very tired, but I got the part.

What was your lifestyle like, living in New York?

There was a real sense of figuring out how to live in New York.

Where are you going to live?

How are you going to find a doctor?

By the time I was 28, I was hitting that.

I had a sort of spacious apartment in Sunnyside, Queens this big pre-war elevator building with a dishwasher.

Did you thrive in that environment, or was it a difficult adjustment?

But I think it is also sort of this vulnerable, lonely, scary time.

I remember I got burgled when I lived in Washington Heights.

Being in your 20s is this really exciting time, but also a war zone.

I was no different.

What did you splurge on at 28?

Wed go out after the theater a lot, like toJoe Allen.

That was maybe a spurge.

Then I had a routine: I would go to the Plaza Hotel.

It was one of those bathrooms that had toiletries.

So I would carry my toothbrush with me.

That was my little secret existence.

Playing Gerri onSuccessionhas been a breakthrough TV role thats garnered youa lotofattention.

Do you think you would’ve been equipped for that attention at 28?

Ill never get equipped for it.

It’s a weird feeling.

I mean, it’s really nice to be in a hit show for a million reasons.

She’s wily and she’s crafty.

What advice would you give your 28-year-old self?

I would tell my 28-year-old self to be a little less judgmental of herself.

There’s just such pressure in our industry to be Barbie doll perfect figures, with even-featured cookie-cutter looks.

Less so nowadays, but certainly I felt that when I was that age.

I look up pictures now and Im like, “I was nice-looking.”

I was so hard on myself and not ambitious enough.

I’d be like, Be a little bolder and don’t be so hard on yourself.

You’re stacking up pretty good for what you’re trying to do.

You’re coming along.

It’s always bumpy.

What would your 28-year-old self think of you now?

When I turned 40, I was worried about that, and I got some great parts then.

And the same when I turned 50 and when I turned 60.

Nowadays, things are a little different people are more open-minded.

you’ve got the option to have peoplethirsting after youon Twitter at 65.

I mean, never cut yourself short and don’t be afraid of the future!

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

This article was originally published onApril 10, 2023