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I was pleasantly surprised to see the ending.

In late January, Kali Reis was settling back into her reality.

Reis, meanwhile, had returned home to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Kali Reis explains the True Detective Season 4 finale.

Navarro played out way differently than how I read, I acted, and how I saw it.

This vulnerability is her saving grace in the finale.

As Native people, we’re a very matriarchal community.

Kali Reis explains the ‘True Detective’ Season 4 Finale

Our women are strong and our decision-makers, says Reis, who is Seaconke Wampanoag and Cape Verdean.

Below, Reis answers burning questions about the finale, from Annies tongue to Navarros fate.

What was your first reaction when you read the finales script?

Kali Reis Breaks Down The Shocking True Detective Season 4 Finale

I was so happy to see Navarro’s journey.

She finally got her name.

That’s what she’d been searching for.

How was it filming the big reveal with the labs cleaning crew?

How did you interpret that?

I like that answer, because it suggests, it doesn’t tell.

you’re able to make up your own theory.

Some of the best stories don’t have clear answers.

They keep you talking about it.

It made me think about one of the themes this year, knowing how to ask the right questions.

Was Navarros question about the tongue the right one to ask?

It was the right question in the moment.

I think the right question my question for Navarro in the moment would be: Whodidcut out her tongue?

Navarro struggles with her visions throughout the show.

What moment convinced her to stop holding them back?

When her sister passed away.

She had to be practical and take care of her sister.

But when her sister goes, she’s like,Its no holds barred now.

I hear the stuff.

It’s going to take me soon, too.

I’m gonna figure this out.

By the end, how has that changed for her?

Shes at peace with everything that happened.

Will she get all her answers?

No one ever really does.

The final shot with her and Danvers on the porch is very powerful.

Whats your takeaway from that moment?

The audience can decide whether she walked on the ice like Julia, or went somewhere else and left.

Maybe Navarro needed to get some things together, and shed be back.

Why do you think that is?

Because they have a deep, deep history.

Danvers has been ignoring that, just burying herself in work, being mean to everybody.

What did you think of some of the callbacks this installment makes to Season 1?

Clark has the line, Time is a flat circle, in the finale.

People are so hooked on the first season, rightly so.

Issa didnt attempt to duplicate it.

I think this is more of a love letter [to that].

There were a lot offan reactions to Rust Cohles dadbeing mentioned in the season.

I was especially glad when Episode 2 came on, and [people realized] Travis is Rusts daddy.

It made a lot of sense since Rusts dad is based in Alaska.

The supernatural part is [connected to] the indigenous people of the land, their creation story.

So what we loved about the first season is reflected in right now in its own way.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.