And so we called the doctor, and lo and behold, I do.
But just a little food and Ill be thrilled.
Holidays and pneumonia notwithstanding, its a busy time for the mom of two.
And I was like, You get paid to wear a sweater?!
It was such a foreign concept to me and I was so excited.
But I dont just want to promote something that I really dont stand behind.
I could be doing cash grabs all day long if I didnt have a conscience.
I could be on OnlyFans, I could be doing crazy things but thats not my thing.
So what is Khloes thing?
But first theres the launch of her signature fragrance,XO Khloe.
(Ive worn it every day since getting a sample.)
Its a lot of pressure, but I wanted to push my boundaries.
What has your experience been?
My sisters Kourtney and Kim both said [that too].
I am in the best shape of my life.
Im doing new career stuff.
Ive only been 40 for about six months, but its the absolute best.
You dont give a sh*t about some of the stuff you once did.
Intentionally, at 39, I tried to close a lot of chapters.
I called itshedding shedding this decade of my 30s and this energy I wanted to leave behind.
What kinds of things were you shedding?
The pandemic really made me a recluse.
It made me super socially anxious once we got back to the real world.
I started being so mean to myself and I dont know where it came from.
Did anyone in your life help you get out of that mindset?
Its so dark and so heavy.
But I will say my sister Kim has really held my hand through so many dark phases for me.
But Kim has really been this crusader for me.
Im just really grateful for that relationship.
We all need those champions.
When Im really stressed, I often get breakfast with my best friend before work instead of getting cocktails.
Its so valuable to just sit there calmly and chat.
That is soSex and the City.
I mean, its normally just moaning in Balthazar, but I guess maybe that is what we need.
We need that tribe.
Sometimes you just need the reminder: No matter what, I have my people.
Why do you think people are so into that?
Oh my gosh, I have the biggest smile on my face.
That makes me so happy to hear.
Thats just my baby.
I love all my siblings, but I think with Rob, I identify with him so much.
And I just feel like we are both each others protectors.
I love him so much.
Its the best ever.
Its why I wanted True to have a sibling so badly.
And so for True, I was like, I need her to have someone.
Its just inevitable that both of her parents at some point will go.
And I just need her to have that support system.
Your new fragrance, XO Khloe, is your first big launch of this era.
Tell me about the 18-month process of creating it.
Well, there are different stages.
The name I could barely name my kids, its so hard.
We did switch fragrance houses a couple times, and we finally got it down.
I wanted it to be confident and sexy, but still light and understated.
Earlier this year you said the fragrance was taking time because Im a perfectionist.
I had that challenge a lot more before I had kids.
It was really hard for me to see it as clearly as I do now.
Im so much kinder to other people than I am to myself.
Its OK for me to give myself that same patience and grace.
Were so focused on being kind, we often dont call out bad behavior when we see it.
What do you think about that balance?
I agree with you so much, I do.
But I love the motto You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
So there is a boundary, but you’re free to be kindandstern.
Its not what you say, its how you say it.
These are the golden rules.
Tell me more about your own podcast.
What is it going to be about?
Its not going to be salacious.
I am not going to be gossiping about other people.
Its more the things that Im into.
I love talking about religion or grief or the afterlife or healing and trauma, dating, relationships.
Its all over the place.
And so thats really the point of my podcast.
You listen and youre like, Oh, wow, OK, it was good for my soul.
What do you find so attractive about the format?
Yeah, its crazy how podcasts are turning into the new talk show.
I think you get way more heart in it.
For me, I sit on a couch and its more casual.
More of a loose conversation.
Youre there because youre promoting a book or whatever.
A podcast, youre just there because you want to chitchat.
Speaking of books, I know youve talked about loving writing and that you write a lot.
Would you ever write a memoir?
Ive learned to never say never.
Its definitely not something Iplanto do.
I love to write, but just for myself.
I love to get my thoughts out there.
I like old-school writing, taking a pen and paper.
I sometimes look back at my journal entries when I was in a tough moment.
Itll be unhinged, but I realize I was actually fine that daybecauseI wrote it out.
Thats how I feel about the gym, too.
If youre having a bad day, you get that anger out.
Its funny you say that about the gym.
Well, first of all, congratulations.
It is a journey and it is a constant struggle, at least for me.
I was the same.
I had so much more confidence the bigger I was, which is whats crazy.
Its a vicious cycle that you dont get out of.
But when I started losing weight, I got the same thing.
And Im like, OK, you guys are so confusing!
I realized youll never make everyone happy.
I have to do whats best for me.
My weight loss journey started because I was getting a divorce.
So I stopped going to therapy and started going to the gym.
I needed a release, but I did not trust anybody else anymore.
And the place that I felt the safest was the gym.
As a byproduct, my body started changing.
I loved the way I felt.
I loved testing myself and challenging myself.
And Ive been doing it for 10-plus years now, and I love it.
Im like, Its been a 10-year journey!
What are you talking about?
Im just mad [Ozempic] wasnt around 10 years ago.
Im so sorry about that experience with therapy.
Do you see yourself ever going back?
I do go to therapy now.
I started when I was 39.
Oh, good for you.
Shes really lovely and I really like her.
Its actually Kims therapist.
Kim was really adamant.
I was like, Ill do this for you.
I dragged my feet, and then I was like, Wow, OK, this is good.
And my therapist was like, I think you should come three days a week.[Laughs.
]She was like, You really need to be here.
It all worked out.
Its amazing when you find the right person.
I have a slightly tough one from Brooklyn.
She sort of teases me in a way that makes me feel able to open up.
Maybe its a British thing, but I love it.
I love when someones sort of mean to me.
Im a British pop in of girl.
I should have been British.
I love British humor.
I want you to have a go at me I need that.
You mentioned earlier that you might touch on dating in your podcast.
Do you ever feel that way?
You and I are very similar.
I really, really do.
But Im not single and dating.
I have such power and strength in that.
There would be a difference if I was single and lonely: I really need my partner.
I am single andthriving.
Also, I dont know if its just me, but dating today is very scary.
Im not going to meet someone on social media.
Im not checking my DMs.
And when you go on someones Instagram, if its a guy, anyones corny unless you like them.
Youre like,God, you took a selfie?But I take 7,000 selfies!
I just feel like were too judgy.
I need to meet your personality.
And then Im like, OK, youre cute.
And then, your selfies?
I feel the same.
Its so hard online and even out and about in New York.
Im like, Oh my God, these people are awful.
I just cant imagine I would bring a man that Im dating around my kids.
So then where do I go to date you?
Im not going to a restaurant where theres paparazzi and everyones going to say were getting married next week.
Im not going to your home because what if you kill me?
Youre not coming tomyhome I have kids!
And Im not going to a hotel thats presumptuous.
So Im like, What do you do?
Thats what I keep telling my mom, because my mom is like, Are you OK?
She probably thinks Im going to die like this.
But I honestly feel like right now is not the time.
My focus is my children, work, and me, and Im so happy.
I actually dont want to share my TV remote with someone.
I love my time when I have it.
I feel like when you and I Im including you, Charlotte when were ready, well know.
I think youre right.
I also similarly feel pretty focused on work and career.
Ive been thinking a lot about how much I want money to be a motivating force in my life.
How do you think about those things?
The more money you make, the more expenses you have.
Its hard to get off that train.
Im more motivated by time with my kids.
Thats my number one.
And then obviously number two is making money to continue the lifestyle that Ive afforded them already.
How do you think aboutthe show?
God, my 50s.
I love doing the show for so many reasons.
If it werent for the show, we probably wouldnt see each other as much as we do.
Although we live in the same community, life gets away from you.
So for that reason, I love it.
I love documenting memories.
Its almost like I have really expensive home videos.
But I dont think that far ahead.
Maybe the kids will take over.
I have no idea.
It could be a fun momager situation, part two.
Yeah, who knows.
Its whatever they want to do.
But I dont think any of us have thought that far ahead.
I love that youre going to be focusing on religion on the podcast.
I took theology in school and love all types of religions.
Im Christian and I love my faith.
I dont think they do.
Its generational and cultural.
I mean, my parents met at church when they were young.
Oh, is that our problem?
We need to go to church.
Charlotte, were going to church.
