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Sera Gamble answers your burning questions about Joe these days.
It’s a classic beloved literary genre,YoushowrunnerSera Gambletells Bustle of the Agatha Christie-inspired whodunnit season.
We have this incredibly literary protagonist.
And there was a sort of irresistible meta aspect to putting him in a story that he immediately recognizes.
This happens to him a lot.
Now he’s like, Oh, great.
I’m in the lowest form of literature.
Now he has to be in close quarters with exactly the people he hates the most, Gamble explains.
He can’t walk away.
His new friends are growing suspicious too.
As with any whodunnit,everyoneis a suspect including Joe.
But it seems as though Joe genuinely wants to stop killing and disposing of dead bodies.
In previous seasons, Joe was always the stalker and the hunter.
Why does Part 1 flip that on its head?
It felt like a really great way to torture the sh*t out of our main character.
So we wanted to put him in a story where he couldn’t just walk away.
Joe takes on this entirely different philosophy as Jonathan.
Do you want fans to think there’s redemption for Joe?
I never think about what I want you to think.
That will make a writer crazy.
Did Penn believe Joe changed?
Were there any conversations with him regarding this better Joe?
Because as people know, he had very strong feelings that Joe was horrible.
He really had to take a minute to decide if he wanted to live inside this character.
And at that point, I said, We have no agenda to redeem him.
He’s just petting puppies, and he has a little ice cream cart.
Where we get him to is a little more challenging, a little more complicated.
What can you tease about Rhys?
The fun really starts when you know who the killer is.
Figuring it out and having to investigate a bunch of shady individuals is fun for a while.
That’s the heart of the show.
You could subtitle the title, What the Hell with Joe Goldberg?
The point of the show is to dig in there.
Now we have given him this dark counterpart.
I cheekily call it the Serial Killer Buddy movie.
Not that Joe wants to be in that movie, but he’s been forced into that movie.
Lukas Gage’s character, Adam, has a kink that his girlfriend Phoebe learns about.
How does this affect their relationship moving forward?
We have a lot of different kinds of sex on the show in general.
And Phoebe’s not stupid.
Start from a default position of saying that you’re curious about whatever they’re into.
But unfortunately, the barrier between Phoebe and Adam has nothing to do with any specific kink.
It has everything to do with the core of their relationship.
DoesMariennemake an appearance in Part 2?
Well, one hopes not because he let her go.
But Joe’s main problem is Rhys going into the second half of the season.
Are there Easter eggs that allude to any big twists in Part 2?
We’ll reward you either way.
Yes, there are a lot of Easter eggs.
And so he has to take a hard look at himself and venture to change, dare we say.
This interview was edited and condensed for clarity.
